Wednesday, August 15, 2007

the artist MUST suffer..

the artist MUST suffer
the artist MUST


he must

the poet unfailinglyfeels
and conveys
in his ways
makes us
(and sometimes laugh)
and so there Must
another man..


an em( )y

the artist must
and nothing
nothing feels

so the poet
MUST suffer..
for all of us
so that
we can
all sigh





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Anonymous the dreamer said...

k, david. so you're in a strange writing mode mood of late.
i liked your old style better.

August 15, 2007 11:04 PM  
Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

yup..that is what they have always said..
"like the old better.."

thank god their words were not heeded..

August 15, 2007 11:12 PM  
Blogger anonym00kie said...

david, you seriously blow me away with this stuff.. you have this way of thinking and writing thats so interesting.. it really makes you want to think deeper, analyze, interpret, internalize.. exactly what art is meant to be..

the dreamer.. i know this is not my business and david will probably kill me for this :) but.. i find these types of comments to david so rude sometimes.. his 'writing mode' is the expression of his emotions and thoughts. thats how he feels, it's real (at least thats the way it comes across to me!). i think it's fine not to like someone's art or poetry.. but i feel like it comes across so judgemental and out of place to tell someone who puts his feelings and thoughts out in a creative way that its strange and not likeable..
obviously this is how he's feeling right now..

August 16, 2007 12:01 AM  
Anonymous zachdus said...

because the artist has too much time on his hands.

Not you, necessarily, I'm not saying, but as a rule. . .it's a better life, no? Maybe not.

August 16, 2007 12:46 AM  
Blogger fashionista cat in a zero gravity shoe-store said...

Absolutely fantastic, David, you've grasped the very emotions of artists. I'm into art as a hobby (have had some stuff published and exhibited already though), and I can tell that the struggle for the perfect colour or shape can be painful. Finding the perfect last piece, completing something that as been on your mind for months are years can bring you to tears.

August 16, 2007 5:44 AM  
Anonymous the dreamer said...

don't get me wrong, david. the concept is beautiful, and you were trying for that sparce effect within your words... it's well done, but kinda hard to read.

i don't know if the artist/poet suffers more than anyone else... he just has a modicum of expression that isn't readily availble to others... and with that, is able to draw out the raw emotions of others...

much of the suffering of the artist is self inflicted, in a way... because the artist is focused inward, he experienes each occurence as an artistic look inside himself.

mooks - sorry. i tend to speak my thoughts (or write them, actually.) david, if you were hurt in any way, i beg your forgiveness.

August 16, 2007 10:22 AM  
Blogger Chaya said...

You need a hug, Dave?

August 16, 2007 10:35 AM  
Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

thank u.. isnt ur place..but i do appreciate..
The problem with frum art, architecture, its stagnant...theres no open..thinking out of the box mentality..and theres a knee jerk reaction against that..

well..artists do tend to dwell on these things more than others ..if they devote their life to art..

is it better?..its definitely more excitin be in a constant state of creating..

I'd love to see some of your stuff...

no..wasnt all..
dont get me wrong..I love a good critique..I just felt it deserved more than just that its "strange"

You might be right..I dont know..But if u read biographies of artists..u see that thread..perhas..they do dwell on it and see it in some sort of art form experience and so they dont redouble their efforts to erase win her make a fortune..precisely because it gives flight to such inner feelngs..

Nooooo no hugs..
the artist MUST suffer...

August 16, 2007 10:57 AM  
Blogger come running said...

Is it that artists feel more in order to create their art or that because they feel more their art come in to being?

August 16, 2007 11:35 AM  
Blogger fashionista cat in a zero gravity shoe-store said...

Many artists are synaesthetic; so am I, and I wouldn't be surprised if Dave was, too.

August 16, 2007 12:10 PM  
Blogger Fajita said...

i am like laughing and crying and whoa:D

August 16, 2007 12:56 PM  
Blogger fashionista cat in a zero gravity shoe-store said...

Sorry, David. I've used the pet form of your name above without you having invited me to do so. My apologies.

August 16, 2007 1:16 PM  
Blogger Spelling Mistakes said...

Pain is a path to life.

I am very moved from what you wrote.
Sending you a virtual hug all the way from Jerusalem.

August 16, 2007 2:35 PM  
Blogger Miriam said...

Shalom. First time commentor. Very interesting, i feel like if I really try to read this with an untapped part of me, i'd fall in. lol

Looking forward to more!

August 16, 2007 5:10 PM  
Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

I think there are 2 elements to being an artist..
1. The ability to perceive, observe and feel..
2. The ability to convey those feelings thru an audio or visual media..

Very good..ur right..
and Dave is just fine as is Day..or D..


oh it sure is..
Thanks so much...
anything from jerusalem is precious...

thank u for visiting...
Thats the fall in..

August 16, 2007 9:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll try to write more later..but I just want to say, that lately your writing.. is more artistic and deeper than ever.... it seems to be the writing of someone who's getting deeply in touch with themselves and is perhaps also in transitition.. whatever it is,,it is BEAUTIFUL
thank you for sharing.

August 17, 2007 12:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

speaking of suffering...just lost my comment!

I just wanted to say that I think artists show us who we are, who they are, what we are collectively, like taking a tack and stopping time for a moment. Essentially, they chronicle the human condition-whether we want to peer in and check it out says a lot about both parties.
I don't think anyone actually enjoys pain or suffering, but much like a sculptor with clay, an artist sits with it and transforms it, offering it as a bridge for connection. It is a fearless attribute.
True art demands a response, and from all that's been evoked, I'd say David's doing his job.
Elul is a very introspective time. How appropriate for this post.

August 18, 2007 5:39 PM  
Blogger the only way i know said...

I love anonymous 5:39 's comment

August 18, 2007 6:39 PM  
Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

Not bad for a lost comment..
Actually..its an incredible comment..because that truly is the essence of art..

August 19, 2007 10:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous is so pleased to have connected!
kisses to to all! (in rhythm with David's overcoming/August 21 post).

August 22, 2007 12:04 PM  
Blogger the sabra said...

im gonna start linkin/copy-pastin to some of ur posts. this one included. just thought id let u know. err ask permission.

what inspired this piece? it's brilliant.

October 18, 2007 2:02 AM  
Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

if u link...u gotta let me read..

October 18, 2007 10:05 PM  
Blogger the sabra said...

ooh the threats

u didn't answer me as to what led u to write this piece. i have that question for a coupla ur posts. would u answer?

October 21, 2007 12:02 AM  
Blogger the sabra said...

o and i wish u would add the date in the comments..

October 21, 2007 12:03 AM  
Blogger David_on_the_Lake said...

How do I add dates..?

I was reading a biography of one famous poet..and I noticed this strain..with all the poets..and artists..that motivation..

October 21, 2007 10:31 AM  
Blogger the sabra said...

settings, comments, comments timestamp format

so artists are OPPOSITES of cannibals

October 22, 2007 12:31 AM  
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